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-- to turn the corner on deficit reduction and support rowing the economy. of that -- support growing the economy. of that, we have already committed to 2.4 trillions -- to $2.4 trillion. , we have to find in some way $1.6 trillion less interest essentially. one way is the sequester. $1.2 trillion in sequester. that is one way. the chairwoman's budget does it a different way. we are sank him instead of using the sequester to get the $1.2 trillion because it does not reflect common sense, it's just arbitrary and across the board during instead of use -- across- the-board. instead of using the sequester, we use this budget which meets the $1.6 trillion with interest durin. in total, it's $1.85 trillion. is that correct? >> yes. if you look at where our target is to get to all the bipartisan andps and where sensible -- were simpson-bowles wanted us to is a path to get to 4.3 c and dollars -- $4.3 trillion to get to thesis mark. x one ways to do sequester. one ways to do it the way we are doing it, which is come instead of arbitrary across-the- board cuts, doing it in what we would view a
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